HSRP-535

Believers in a personal God pick obedience as a value for children more often than atheists, a difference of degree; that a strict upbringing forms the adult authoritarian character is not yet found.

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1. Header

Number: HSRP-535
Category: Civilizational Analysis
Grade: PROBABLE
Status: ACTIVE
Entry form: Full
First entered: Not recorded — added to the register in supplement 027
Last revised: 2026-10-13
Register entry: https://worldfreedomcore.com/hsrp-research-notes#HSRP-535

2. The claim, in full

Believers in a personal God pick obedience as a value for children more often than atheists, a difference of degree; that a strict upbringing forms the adult authoritarian character is not yet found.

Cited on: /the-hive-mind, THE RELIGIOUS HIVE MIND › Religion and obedience, measured. Entered 2026-10-12 with the /the-hive-mind rewrite; tag NEW-W3a-16.

3. What it rests on

The measured differences are of degree. In 30 European countries (37,645 adults), believers in a personal God chose obedience as a quality to teach children more often than atheists, 28.6% against 20.3%, and autonomy less often, 39.6% against 59.6%. More than seven in ten believers did not choose obedience [SRC-988].

Source: none linked in the register

No confidence intervals are recorded for any figure in this block.

4. Sources

No source is linked to this observation in the register.

5. Counter-evidence

That a strict religious upbringing forms the adult authoritarian character is not yet found; a study of twins reared apart and together finds little effect of rearing on it [SRC-989].

Source: none linked in the register

6. Why this grade

Upbringing forming the adult authoritarian character — not yet found; not yet known whether it will be found.

The register defines PROBABLE as: Well supported, but an interpretation or connection across sources rather than something a source states directly.

7. Correction history

2026-10-13: BATCH 3 of the /the-hive-mind slimming: explanation moved here from WHERE YOU'LL FIND IT, CULTS, THE PARTY HIVE MIND or THE RELIGIOUS HIVE MIND — wording unchanged. The page's reference numbers were converted to SRC numbers at extraction.

8. Related observations

HSRP-536 · WORKING · Persecution and authoritarian rule go with the state's regulation of religion more than with an established church, secular states included: the hazard is coercive power joined to conscience.
Relation: not recorded
HSRP-537 · WORKING · Religion has also been a chief ground of resistance to rulers, from the 830s to Leipzig in 1989, as have secular bodies with an authority above the state.
Relation: not recorded

9. Where this appears on the site

Content pages that cite this observation inline:

The Programmable Hive Mind
“Believers in a personal God pick obedience as a value for children more often than atheists, a difference of degree; that a strict upbringing forms the adult authoritarian character is not yet found — PROBABLE”

10. Open questions

Not yet recorded for this observation.

11. Machine block

The register record this page was generated from, with the derived fields added:

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